Clive: Choosing Joy


Clive plays drums in worship bands and played with the CCU band. Photo provided by Clive.

Anyone who knows Clive will tell you that they have never met someone whose relationship with God is so evident and whose positive attitude is so genuine. He has such a close relationship  with God that he even calls Him Dad. His faith is an inspiration to many, including me.

Clive grew up in a Christian home in the Cayman Islands, and has since journeyed across the globe in pursuit of God’s will for his life. He left home at age 18 to study medicine in Jamaica, and after a year of college, he traveled to Costa Rica to continue his studies. He then came to Colorado, where he attended Colorado Christian University studying worship arts.

While in Colorado, he felt God leading him to leave school and get involved in Youth With a Mission (YWAM), a Christian missions organization. Trusting God to provide the funds he needed, he bought a one-way ticket to Hawaii to participate in the music track of  YWAM’s 21 Project. The experience left him feeling “disappointed and discouraged,” unsure if becoming “a musician that spread the gospel” was really his calling. He then decided to attend YWAM’s 6-month Discipleship Training School (DTS), where he finally found his purpose: he would become a missionary.

Clive started our interview with a prayer. “Thank you that Ali saw something in me that made her want to do this interview, but whatever she saw, she is seeing You,” he said. He grinned widely and laughed out of pure joy and gratitude at being able to talk to God, the Maker of the universe, his Dad. 

Q: How did your relationship with God change your life?

A: “In my mid-teens I was a really angry kid. I took to heart all the things that happened to me and I became bitter. I visited some friends of mine in Colorado and they explained things about God to me, like that He actually is a great Father, and that changed my life. Finding out that God is my Father, and not just the God who created the universe from dust, kickstarted the kind of relationship I have with Him now. I grew to love Him because He is a great Dad, the lover of my soul, the One I can be most intimate with.”

Q: You have done a lot of different things trying to find God’s will for your life. How did you deal with God completely changing the plans you had?

A: “I wanna tell you that I was like, “Yep, Jesus, I’m gonna follow You,” the first time [He changed my plans], but that was not the case. My reaction at first was not happy. I wasn’t blaming Dad, but I was trying to figure out why things weren’t happening the way I wanted them to. But now I realize that [all the changes in my life] were exactly what needed to happen. Now I have so much peace, joy, and fulfillment. Everywhere I go, I’m in Dad’s hands.”

Q: How did you start to develop a strong prayer life and vibrant relationship with God?

A: “I became serious in my relationship with Jesus [when I told Him], “I want to be like You.” I started focusing more on Him in my day. I started doing more worship stuff and started singing things to Him. [I thought,] “wow! I can say these things to Him too,” and started doing that [through prayer].”

“The main thing He taught me [as I grew in my relationship with Him] is how to have joy and be who He made me to be- a joy bomb so to speak. There is nothing in this world more important to me than Him. My biggest aim is to be just like Jesus and concentrate on heavenly things instead of worldly things.”

Q: How does prayer impact your life?

A: “Prayer is literally everything. Every single day I pray. I talk to God about everything- money, food, girls- everything! There’s nothing too insignificant to bring to Dad. He wants to be our best friend. A big part of my prayer [life] is bringing Him everything.”

“I get to talk to Jesus. He makes time to talk to me because He created time. He wants to talk to me and He’s making Himself available to me, so why would I turn Him down?”

Q: What is your prayer life like?

A: “I just start talking and He’ll respond. [For me, prayer can be] having a question, asking God that question, getting His answer and being grateful to Him for it. I talk to Him like He’s my dad. You can call on Him anywhere and everywhere, He loves talking to His kids.”

“God wants relationship, not religion. In my relationship with God, I see Him as a Father who is worth being respected, and I speak with Him candidly. When I remember that He is God of the universe, the transcendent Being over everything, and I remember just how big he really is, [to know] that He lives inside of me… What an honor! He could have chosen to live anywhere else. It’s so humbling to think [of the fact that] I’m not a servant, I’m a son.”

Q: How do you approach praying for others?

A: “[I love praying for others] because I get to talk to Jesus. I get to see Heaven come to earth in that situation and I get to become more like Him. The more I communicate with Dad, the more I become like Him. I get to talk to Jesus on others’ behalf.”

Q: Do you pray Scripture back to God, and if so, how do you do it?

A: “[Praying Scripture back to God] is a great thing to do. In the Bible, people like Moses and Abraham would say to God, “remember, You said You were going to do this.” They were quoting Scripture to God even before the Bible was written. [When I pray Scripture], I say, “Dad, You said this, so I claim this. You said You would take me there.” And when God does take me [where He promised], I tell Him thank you for taking me there.”

Q: Do you have a favorite Bible verse?

A: “One that hit me hard recently was the last part of 1 Corinthians 13:5, which says that love holds no record of wrongs. [This verse reminds me of] the power of forgiveness and why God wants us to forgive. [This verse also] means that once we accept Christ, everything we did is forgotten and we now have the ability to become sons and daughters of God. It qualifies us to receive the inheritance of Christ.”

Q: How are you able to love people so well?

A: “You have to receive love from God, not just give love to others. When you receive love from the Father, you won’t be giving love from a place of “I have to,” but rather “I want to.” When you realize how loved you are and how everything you have has been given to you by God through grace, the devil can’t touch you. The Bible says that we love because He first loved us [1 John 4:19], and that’s the only way we can love others: receiving love from the Father. You are loved by God. Nothing you can do will make Him stop loving You. His love for You was there since the beginning, it will be there in the end, and it’s there now. His love for You can’t stop because it would contradict His infinite nature. If God loves you, I love you.”

“I speak truth [to others] because I am free to do so. The verse that says life and death are in the power of the tongue [Proverbs 18:21] is so true. What you say about a situation or a person shapes them.”

Q: How are you able to be joyful no matter the circumstances?

A: “I believe that joy is a gift that I’ve been given. I wasn’t walking in joy [when I was younger], but the chains of anger were broken off of me through the power of Jesus Christ. Be wary of what the enemy will do; he’ll take something that you’re meant to do and make you afraid of it. You can change the world [when you are doing what God made you to do].”

“Joy is more than happiness, joy depends on Jesus. If God is joy, I will be joy. I ask God to give me joy. I choose to be consistently positive. I don’t always get it right,  but I choose to speak life and truth.”

“People quote Romans 5:8 a lot, which says that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. But they sometimes ignore the first part, which says that this is the love of God for us that He died for us. I have no excuse to see anything in a negative way because God sees the positive in every single thing He made [even us, when we were still sinners]. I don’t have it all right, and that’s okay. Whenever I fail, I get to learn more about Jesus.”


Written by Ali


Sheli: A Journey of Obedience

Prayer Through a Divorce and Weight Loss Program


Photo provided by Sheli.

Written by Ali

Sheli became a Christian at a young age and “grew up in a Christian home with a very solid, loving family,” but it took the unthinkable for her relationship with God to become more personal.

Not only did she go through a divorce, she was also faced with the daunting prospect of losing over 100 pounds.

Her story is one of discovering the power of prayer and grace of God, trusting Him in the hard times and choosing to obey Him in all things.

Q: When did you begin to develop a stronger prayer life?

A: “Prayer had always been important, but about a year before I was separated from [my ex-husband] was when it became more personal. [A friend] reached out to me and she really challenged me to start praying for [my husband]. She also asked me to read The Power of a Praying Wife by Stormie Omartian. I don’t really enjoy reading, and it was the last thing I “felt” like doing at that moment in time, but it was powerful.

I think I had to be in a valley before prayer became really personal and real to me. Praying for [my ex-husband] didn’t change the outcome or what ultimately happened with our marriage, but it changed my heart.”

Q: How is your prayer life different now than when it first began?

A: “I finally understand the power and importance of prayer in so many ways; it impacts the physical journey, the spiritual journey and the emotional journey. [When you don’t understand the power of prayer], you don’t look for God to work. You’re comfortable and you’re doing what you’re supposed to be doing (sort of).

I discovered on this journey that God really does bring just what you need right when you need it. It has been amazing to see how God would give me the verse or the song that I needed that spoke to what I was struggling with or what I was celebrating. Sometimes, it was a simple verse like “Be still, and know that I am God…” [Psalm 46:10], or “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” [Philippians 4:13], but it was always timely.

There were many songs that spoke to me and that I prayed through during this time. ‘Blessings’ by Laura Story was probably what I would call my journey song.

‘Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops, what if Your healing comes through tears, what if a thousand sleepless nights is what it takes to know You’re near? What if the trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise?” -‘Blessings’ by Laura Story

I saw God’s faithfulness sustain me through a storm I never dreamed I’d face. He showed me the blessings of His faithfulness in ways I may never have seen apart from the rain. I truly learned to praise Him through the storm.

There have been so many circumstances [that God has orchestrated] that were a direct result of my prayers; I’m not just throwing words out anymore. I know that God is hearing me, which is still kind of mind-blowing to me sometimes.

I don’t let my feet hit the floor in the morning before I have my quiet time and pray, which was not really a thing in my life before. It’s a huge part of my day. I started journaling [what I was experiencing] and praying through [it].

Another special part of this journey for me has been my time spent at the Monument [a local hiking trail]. It’s become a symbol to me personally of obedience, physical and spiritual discipline. I listen to praise and worship music while I’m out there and I pray some of the lyrics of the songs and some of the Scriptures that I’ve read. It’s super effective.

In that hardest time of my life, I had to choose a direction: do I want to trust God or do I want to stay bitter and miserable? I determined that prayer and trusting God were acts of obedience.”

Q: Do you have a specific method or way of praying?

A: “I’m fairly conversational [in my prayers]. I certainly maintain reverence and I try to remind myself of Who I’m [praying] to. I challenge myself to take that seriously. I like to connect Scripture in my prayers, partly through song.

The song ‘Just Say Jesus’ by 7eventh Time Down says “when you don’t know what to say, just say Jesus”- I do that sometimes if I don’t know what to say [while praying]. I just call out His Name when I’m struggling with fear or anxiety. The key is to just call out and be available.

I keep a list of people I say I will pray for and I use that in the morning because I don’t want to forget and say I’ll [pray for someone] and not mean it. Another part of my prayer is listening [to God].”

Q: What do you typically pray about?

A: “Every single day I ask God to let me shine. I want to be noticed for Him, not for my glory, but for His. I want people to see something different [in me] so I’ll have the chance to share [my testimony]. I also have to make a point to tell God thank you.”

Q: How do you pray for your children?

A: “[I pray] very purposefully and very specifically for each child. Sometimes I don’t know what to pray, so I tell God that and recognize that He knows their circumstances. I tell God I put them at His feet.”

Q: How do you include Bible reading in your daily routine?

A: “I don’t like to read big segments of Scripture. When I’m doing devotionals, I try to focus on the Scripture and pray through that. The Bible verse I claimed the most through all of this was Jeremiah 29:11 ‘”For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future“‘ (NIV). Sometimes I don’t feel that that verse is true, but I choose to believe that it is.”

Q: How did your walk with God influence your struggle with weight?

A: “I asked God to help me make good choices about what I ate and what physical activities I did. I knew I couldn’t do it [alone]. A lot of days I didn’t want to [obey] and I had to pray, “God, let me make the right choices today.”

I couldn’t even run ten feet when I started, and I’m not kidding. [When I began losing weight], I had to watch pride because people would tell me “good job” for what I was doing. I had to pray and ask God to help me give Him the glory. Not that I didn’t appreciate the encouragement, but I needed to say “God got me here.” I only lost all that weight in God’s strength.

A lot of this has felt like it would be impossible without Him. I was pretty athletic growing up, but I didn’t see myself as a representative of Christ in that way. [Now physical fitness has] become an opportunity to be obedient to God.”

Q: What is your advice to other believers?

A: “Choose to be disciplined in prayer even if it hasn’t become personal to you yet. Pray before your marriage goes bad, before your parents get sick, etc. [That way] you’ll be better prepared to manage those times.”

Q: Do you have any advice for married couples?

A: “For young married couples, it’s so critical to pray together and to pray privately for each other. That’s one of my biggest regrets. I didn’t know the power of doing that, and it’s real. I’m also not sure I told [my ex-husband] I was praying for him. You can’t show more care than to pray for someone and let them know what you’re doing. I would encourage people to pray for their spouse no matter the circumstances. It might not change their behavior, but it [does change] your heart.”

Q: What are some of the most important lessons you’ve learned through your divorce and weight loss journey?

A: “Obedience is really big for me. People ask why I’m out at the Monument so much, and it’s not because I’m a fitness freak. Every step onto that path is, for me, a symbolic act of obedience to God. The times I don’t feel like going, I sit there and I pray and then I go.

I had the chance the other day to forgive [someone who had really hurt me]. I told [them], “I want you to know I forgive you.” It was a really tough circumstance but we had a nice conversation and [they were] very grateful for my forgiveness. I thought, if I had to go through all this just to show [them] Jesus, then okay.

Only God could bring me to where I am. The thought that I would ever be standing there [forgiving that person] never occurred to me. God goes before me [and He sees] the big picture. There is no way [our encounter] wasn’t orchestrated.

I spend time every day dealing with forgiveness and still, to this day, I struggle. I think you can be disappointed in someone but still forgive them. God has given me an understanding of the need for forgiveness and the power that is involved in it.

I don’t know if these things happened so I could minister to divorced women, but I think God has used my experience [to help me] encourage another woman going through divorce as best I can.”

Q: Any last thoughts?

A: “I would never recommend the path I’ve been on for anybody, but I wouldn’t change it either because it got me where I am with God. God showed up. I have absolutely no doubt that God will lead a believer through anything and everything if they will ask and let Him lead. Only God’s grace can take a person through what I have experienced [ “…My grace is sufficient for you…2 Corinthians 12:9].